I've been poring through the archaeology section of Digg, and found some rather fringe ideas. Many of these sites are pretty stale. One of the linked pages contains an old news story from 2002 that a city older than any known human civilization had been found off the coast of India. What piqued my interest is that the site linked to a BBC article describing the find. If the BBC links to it, it must be authentic, right? Well, no so fast. What we have here is a classic example of both Bad Archaeology and Bad Archaeology Reporting.
A telltale sign of bad archaeology (and reporting of such) is the absence of hard evidence. Upon close inspection, the article has hardly any actual facts at all. First, of course, comes the breathless statement:The remains of what has been described as a huge lost city may force historians and archaeologists to radically reconsider their view of ancient human history.
Then we are introduced to the people who made the 'discovery,' who are un-named "marine scientists." Who were these people? Underwater archaeologists? No, below we are told that they were "oceanographers from India's National Institute of Ocean Technology conducting a survey of pollution"
Then, we are told that debris had been recovered from the site, and carbon-dated to 9500 years ago, which would be thousands of years before the earliest known human cities. What kind of debris? Construction material and sections of walls -- what kind of 'construction material?' No organic material could survive preserved under water for that length of time, so no C14 dating possible. Pottery -- Also not carbon datable. Beads -- usually made of stone and not carbon datable. Human bones and teeth -- these, too, would not survive under water for that long.
Then the article quotes Graham Hancock by name -- a well-known pseudoarchaeologist who claims that the Giza pyramids were patterned after the stars in Orion's belt and are many thousands of years older than currently believed. The link between him and this article immediately calls into question the whole story.
Now, this article may be five years old, but pseudoarchaeology never dies. A quick google search for "Cambay city" finds dozens of articles touting this 'find' as evidence for Atlanteans, super-ancient civilizations, and so on. The Wikipedia article is an amusing amalgam of skepticism and credulity, obviously the work of multiple authors.
A tell-tale warning sign is the lack of any scientific publication, and that the 'artifacts' in question have not been made available to outside investigators. We are simply told that scientific investigation confirmed their authenticity. The fact that the principle investigator is a geologist, not an archaeologist, also triggers alarm bells.
There are some images on Graham Hancock's website, which are underwhelming. Radar images that are proclaimed to show a 'city' and even a 'bathing complex' that look like no such thing. "Pottery" and "beads" that I can attest do not look like any actual pottery or beads I have ever seen, but seem to be compacted ocean bottom sediments. One or two of the 'lithics' might be authentic artifacts, but of course they are not evidence for an ancient city.
Friday, July 13, 2007
Bad Archaeology Reporting: "Lost" Indian City
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Interesting. I'll certainly add that to my folder marked "Egad!". Whatever happened to the good ol' days of primary sources and brylcreem, anyways?
The artefacts, if I remember either Heaven's Mirror or Underworld correctly were found by dredging. If the basis for dating these artefacts is that they're on the seabed and it was last exposed x thousand years ago, then the invention of the ship, and slightly after, the shipwreck might pose a problem. At least it does if the port of Cambay is visited by ships.
I'm not sure about the survival of wood in seawater though. I've got a vague recollection that mesolithic spears have been found by trawlers on the Dogger Bank. C14 dating would be a problem though because sea water would replace some of the carbon in the wood with older carbon as it seeped in. You could C14 date the wood to 9kyr, but whether or not that's a reliable date is a different matter.
alun,
Wood can survive for some time at the sea floor, where there is little oxygen, although 9500 years would be much older than the oldest shipwreck I know of. However, we're not talking about a sudden sinking, but gradual submergence over millennia. Survival under such conditions seems unlikely to me. If found in context, C14 dating could in theory be used -- they've dated the Ulu Burun shipwreck in that manner -- but context is the other missing piece here.
This reminds me of a running debate I had across various forums and sites a few years ago with Georgio Diaz about "Atlantis artifacts" he was "discovering" of the coast of Spain.
The same interesting things kept popping up: claims of significance without evidence; no provenience; no context; and no detailed reports and siteplans of their underwater "excavations."
I'm going to have to dig that debate up and post about it some day.
Great blog, by the way. I love discussing pseudo-archaeology, so I'm sure I'll be back!
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I agree with Alun about the preservation - bottom-scraping trawlers in the North Sea do come up with artefacts that are very well preserved (there was a Time Team Special on it. Yeah, sorry). Google 'north sea archaeology' and you can see what a real reconstructed drowned landscape looks like. They dredge up stuff that's not just 'that might be an artifact' but more 'wow! look at the preservation on that!' (ok, so they have undersea peat on their side, but still).
And now you've got me interested I'm going to end up being distracted from work by undersea archaeology all afternoon.
http://www.offshore-sea.org.uk/site/scripts/downloads.php?categoryID=37
More hilariousness:
Wikipedia: Ruins in the Gulf of Cambay
Wikipedia, the encyclopedia for and by the (m)asses. This is what it currently describes:
"However, if authenticated, the discovery of such ruins would change many of the modern theories about ancient civilizations. Such a discovery would even support certain events described in many versions of the Bible."
Yes, this is why I learn about history. I do it just to prove a narrow-minded fantasy novel called the bible so that we can all be oppressed by the Church again like the good ol' days of the Crusades and Inquisition. I'm too agnostic for this crap. Down with faithmongers.
Okay, what kind of scientist would expect great reporting on a scientific discovery from a short article by laypeople intended for laypeople, even if it is BBC? Honestly, stuff I see from my field (biochemistry and molecular biology) is always tremendously simplified in the news. And it should be. The BBC article does actually mention that marine archeologists were brought on the scene. They didn't specify who, but I wouldn't really expect them to--news articles on science stuff usually just mention a couple of names from the people they got quotes from. They just want to splash the exciting news about the initial discovery. If oceanographers saw it first, why shouldn't they get a little mention? They do the same thing for kids stumbling onto dinosaur bones and such. It doesn't necessarily mean they thought the kid was the appropriate expert. Of course it's not going to be full of hard data and have info that isn't what a scientist would consider very pertinent.
The Cambay site is being studied primarily by Indian archaeologists, and there actually are several publications in the Journal of Indian Ocean Archaeology. Some samples were sent to Oxford University and Hanover, Germany for analysis, so it's not like these are secret findings. The Gulf of Cambay is also known as the Gulf of Khambat or Khambhat, in case people are trying to look this stuff up.
What kind of moron would expect a BBC article to go into details of the finding. The fact that oceonographers stumbled upon the findings doesnt detract from the finding itself. Use some logic. If you are so interested in the finding read the articles published by the indian archaeologist and the oxford and Hanover articles ( that is for people who believe there has to be a "western white" stamp ) to proove authenticity of any scientific finding.
So has anyone reading this seen any of the purported information mentioned available in the Indian sources, or Hanover or Oxford? What do these sources say specifically? I agree that one cannot simply dismiss a finding based on who found it, but one cannot lend credence to it either unless it has been researched and verified by some semblance of experts in the related fields of science. As these 'discoveries' go back to 2002, or earlier, has nothing been verified to this point?
i think the era in which archeologists told ud how the history evolved , has definitely finished.Why?Maybe because nowdays any sector of the Science require a team's approach..In physics in the Medical either in archeology the mass of informations needed to frame a truly description of the facts seeks much more than archeologycal knowledge..The ancients maybe sometimes don't remind well but they're honests in their commitement to save the memory of their time,we can't ignore what they have reported..the best scientific approach is to merge the efforts of anyone who can add some information,even of geologiasts..From Italy
Keep up the good work.
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